For once, it's not the Hipsters' fault

"boredalways" (boredalway666) 11/13/2018 at 10:35 • Filed to: PBR in danger, Pabst Blue Ribbon, MillerCoors lawsuit, The Guardian

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There are only two ways to enjoy PBR: 1) on tap and ice cold, 2) 40oz, shortays!

boredalways > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:34

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/13/pabst-blue-ribbon-crisis-court-battle-millercoors

DipodomysDeserti > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:54

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The marketing company known as PBR forced out of business by the company that actually brews its beer.  Sounds like it’s still the Hipsters’ fault.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:55

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When there are better beers out there, this affects me not at all.

The Dummy Gummy > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:55

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2020... I don’t see why they don’t set up their own shop. The distribution will be a semi issue, but you already have the customers so the hard part is done.

random001 > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:55

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Meh, we can still blame them.

OPPOsaurus WRX > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 10:57

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ni college we used PBR when we played Beirut(beer pong) cuz no one could tell the difference in taste when the beer got dust/dirt from the floor in the cup that was stuck to the ball.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:07

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It sounds like the consolidation also lead to the demise of such steller brands as Stros and Rainer . PBR needs to continue tho, it is A merica’s Corona .

Tripper > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:09

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Second time in a week that I have been prompted to post this old video!

Milky > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:09

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PBR is also good when the local dive bar has cans for $2.

Svend > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:13

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Pabst Brewing Company , the owner of PBR, argues that MillerCoors is attempting to force it out of business by breaking a decades-long contract whereby MillerCoors produces Pabst’s ale.

MillerCoors disagrees. The company says it is not obliged to carry on producing PBR, and claims it gave Pabst plenty of notice to make other brewing arrangements.

The crisis stems back to a 1999 agreement forged between Pabst and MillerCoors, whose own beers include Miller Lite, Miller High Life, and Miller High Life Light.

That agreement saw MillerCoors take on responsibility for producing, packaging and distributing nearly all of Pabst’s beers – which also include Texas favorite Lone Star and Old Milwaukee.

Now MillerCoors says it is not obliged to continue manufacturing Pabst’s beer when the agreement expires in 2020, potentially leaving Pabst without a brewery from which to unleash its beer on the American public.

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That hard-earned ironic consumption is now at risk. A spokesman for MillerCoors said it told Pabst back in 2015 that it might not be able to produce its beer beyond 2020. MillerCoors has problems of its own – beer sales in general are declining in the US – and says it may have to close the facility where PBR is brewed.

But Pabst claims its agreement means MillerCoors must help it find a place to brew its beer. Pabst says it needs 4m to 4.5m barrels brewed annually and MillerCoors is the only place with the facilities to do it. Pabst is seeking more than $400m in damages.

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That’s confusing if not ridiculous. So they are accusing MillerCoors of trying to shut them down, when it’s MillerCoors that brew, package and sell Pabst for them.

So what does Pabst do if the ‘rival company’ is making the product for them.

You can’t take it to court, that they are trying to remove the competition if they are making it for you.

Make it your ruddy selves you lazy arsed idiots.

At least they’ll have one supporter, Julian Assange, ‘how dare they ask me to make my bed and look after my animal in their embassy’. 

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > DipodomysDeserti 11/13/2018 at 11:14

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Sounds like MillerCoors is kind of being a dick about it though (which they have every right to be if they want). The owners of PBR have offered to buy one of the breweries that Miller has shuttered, but Miller apparently won’t sell it for anything less than absurd.

boredalways > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/13/2018 at 11:19

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Natty Light (or Ice) off a keg for me!

boredalways > Milky 11/13/2018 at 11:20

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Even better when it was $2 Pint.

CalzoneGolem > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:20

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PBR tallbois ftw.

The Dummy Gummy > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2018 at 11:21

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Cool

The Dummy Gummy > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 11/13/2018 at 11:22

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That’d be Milwaukee’s best, also known as The Beast.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/13/2018 at 11:23

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ours was coors. to this day the thought of drinking coors makes me gag

The Dummy Gummy > Milky 11/13/2018 at 11:23

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That’s a lot of coin for PBR. For $2 you can get a “proper” can of piss (bud light/miller light) for that amount of money.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 11/13/2018 at 11:30

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i never drank much of it, but i have the same reaction

Milky > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:30

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I guess that much encourages you to drink fast, no one can stomach warm PBR.  

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Svend 11/13/2018 at 11:31

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I don’t think we are getting the whole story. I’ve heard a couple other things that make PBR seem more reasonable. One, that they had attempted to buy one of Miller’s shuttered breweries, but Miller won’t sell for any price less than absurd. And two, the contract may end in 2020, but there are provisions in the contract about renewal rights or something to that affect that Miller is attempting to not honor.

Milky > The Dummy Gummy 11/13/2018 at 11:31

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I mean I get Stroh’s, won't judge my friends for getting PBR though.  

DipodomysDeserti > Milky 11/13/2018 at 11:39

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$2 sounds a bit steep for a can of PBR. My grocer routinely puts cases on sale for $8. I think a sixx er is normally $5.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 11:43

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The chain restaurant Smashburger sells 12 oz cans for 75c. I actually like PBR quite a bit. It’s cheap and decent.

DipodomysDeserti > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 11/13/2018 at 11:45

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It really is America’s Corona, in that neither American Corona nor PBR are actually brewed by their namesakes.

DipodomysDeserti > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 11/13/2018 at 11:48

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They should just get La Croix to make it for them. Shouldn’t affect the taste or alcohol content.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > DipodomysDeserti 11/13/2018 at 11:50

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I mean all the traditional light American beers taste pretty similar. Though if I have to rank them Coors light>PBR>Miller lite>Bud light...so yea, I’d still take a PBR over Miller or Bud.

Svend > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 11/13/2018 at 11:51

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It just sounds slightly odd and silly. 

BigBlock440 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 11/13/2018 at 11:52

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Sounds like they want to reopen it after they get out of the contract. From what I read there were internal documents  from MC that said they’d have to shut down 2 plants to get out of brewing for Pabst, and now they are.  Looks like they plan to keep the breweries and reopen them once they get out of the contract.

boredalways > The Dummy Gummy 11/13/2018 at 11:53

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No amount of marketing makes Bud Light or Miller Lite "proper".

Milky > DipodomysDeserti 11/13/2018 at 11:56

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This is capitalist America, you’re not getting it at cost at a bar.  

smobgirl > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2018 at 11:58

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This would shut down beer pong at my office.

DipodomysDeserti > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 11/13/2018 at 11:59

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Except that regular PBR isn’t a light beer. It’s a standard American Lager. They do make a light version, though. I imagine it just tastes like water.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > BigBlock440 11/13/2018 at 11:59

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So there must be some stipulation in the contract about brewing capacity that they are trying to weasel their way out of it. Which would make sense if the other bit I heard about the contract having something about renewal rights in it as well even though it ends in 2020, because if the contract simply terminated in 2020 there’d be no reason for shutting down those breweries to get out of brewing Pabst.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > DipodomysDeserti 11/13/2018 at 12:01

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True...though my statement still holds true.

Coors>PBR>MGD>Bud

And now that you mention it I don’t know that I’ve ever had PBR’s light beer .

DipodomysDeserti > Milky 11/13/2018 at 12:05

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Well, bars get their beer wholesale. They don’t usually  stock up at the grocery store. There was a dive bar in Scottsdale that used to  do $0.50 PBR nights. 

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 12:16

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There are only two ways to enjoy PBR:

I don’t think anyone actually enjoys PBR. I think they drink tallboys until it doesn’t taste bad anymore. Then they go crash their fixed-gear bikes on the way home from kickball practice.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > The Dummy Gummy 11/13/2018 at 12:22

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When I used to drink, PBR was one of the few beers I would actually drink aside from this:

Came from a friend’s family’s brewery. Other than those I felt Bud/Miller tasted like shit, different tastes I guess.

My bird IS the word > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 12:25

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Yuengling is the only good domestic, change my miind

boredalways > My bird IS the word 11/13/2018 at 12:44

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Change your mind? Don’t need to. Anyway, let me get you some more berries.

boredalways > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 11/13/2018 at 12:46

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Hmmm, I guess adult dodgeball leagues aren't hip anymore.

Milky > DipodomysDeserti 11/13/2018 at 12:55

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Where I go literally has 30 rack boxes in the corner and a cigarette vending machine.  Great place.  

The Dummy Gummy > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/13/2018 at 13:21

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I’ll note proper is in quotes. I haven’t drank either since college. I drink local brewer’s or crafts from around the country. My flavor of choice right now is Brewdog & Dogfish 75min

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > smobgirl 11/13/2018 at 13:22

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Most unfortunate, but I am not in your office. And if I was, I would be bringing Stella.

benjrblant > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 11/13/2018 at 13:29

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kickball? please. You mean bike polo.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > The Dummy Gummy 11/13/2018 at 15:00

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If you can find  Metro’s stuff I would highly suggest giving it a try.

My bird IS the word > boredalways 11/13/2018 at 15:41

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I need to catch up on my south park

Nom De Plume > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 11/13/2018 at 16:58

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I was perhaps too heavy handed to pull off the mock seriousness intended.  The part about losing all but a scant few local beers to corporate interests is fully true.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > My bird IS the word 11/13/2018 at 20:20

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Lager, cheap lager or all types of beers?

pip bip - choose Corrour > boredalways 11/14/2018 at 05:32

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never drunk it

BigBlock440 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 11/14/2018 at 09:24

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Yeah, it’s definitely more complicated than it first seems.

My bird IS the word > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 11/14/2018 at 12:57

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Cheap lager. If we are talking about american beers most places have on tap I’d also include blue moon. I’ve been enjoying me some craft beers otherwise.

boredalways > My bird IS the word 11/14/2018 at 13:20

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Indeed you should.

boredalways > pip bip - choose Corrour 11/14/2018 at 13:24

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Think Foster’s on a bad day

ETA: or would that be a normal day?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > My bird IS the word 11/16/2018 at 18:49

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A friend is super into craft brewing, and the problem with lagers is the slightest impurity or variation in the water, ingrediants or process can have large impacts on taste. Also they can go skunk quicker.